Love the "rare image of developers trying to escape from a framework silo"! But I'll be f**''d before I ever start a major, complex app without a framework. There's a reason why Google, Facebook, etc. developed these frameworks in the first place. Perhaps if I were a genius prima donna software engineer (like, apparently, some who post regularly on Medium) I might share your attitude. But, as a mere human, I will always prefer to take advantage of the wisdom of the genius prima donna software engineers at Google, Facebook, etc. I do take your message, however, regarding the advances in modern DOM and Javascript, and it not being as hard as I would imagine.